This is my dad's story 
to the best of my knowledge
Jackie

 

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Daddy &  his three older brothers are shown next to him, above with their parents, Roddie Lee & Mattie Blunt Josey above them.  Click on any of the pictures to see a larger version, especially the one on the left.  

Other than the school pictures below, the only young photo that I have been able to locate of daddy is this one above and a clearer version of it to the immediate left.   He must have been in his late teens or early 20's in this picture.  Many thanks to Jean Josey Bonneau (our first cousin, daughter of Uncle Bill) for sharing this one photo of daddy.  

There is conflicting information on when and where daddy was born.  And, then I had four boys, myself, which I find interesting.   There was no birth certificate filed for our daddy, at least not that I have been able to track down to this date.  To complicate matters even more, all four of the boys in this family were born at home.  According to some records and family oral history, daddy was born in Doddridge, or Bright Star, AR.  There is also another story that it could have been Nash, TX.  In fact, per #271 on the 1930 CADDO PARISH, (VIVIAN) LA CENSUS,  it states that all three of his older brothers were born in Louisiana and Arkansas, but that daddy was born in Texas.  However, Texas has no record of his birth.   

On all of daddy's seven children's birth certificates, they list his birthplace as being in many different localities:

Two birthplaces as Doddridge, AR, two birthplaces as Vivian, LA, (with one of those being on Wanda Ruth's birth certificate) one birthplace as "Arkansas" and two birthplaces as Nash, TX.  One of the Nash, TX records was Wanda Ruth's death certificate, and it states that daddy was born in Nash, TX; this after her birth certificate stated he was born in Vivian, LA. 

Daddy's military record states he was born in 1912.   March 1, 1913 is the birth date on his military headstone.  Then, the biggest mystery is the March 2, 1910 Census shows he was one year and five months old.  So, we can not explain the huge discrepancy from 1908 to 1913 on all of these records. 

 

 

۩ - March 2, 1910 Caddo Parish, LA  census records show  Josey, Roddie Lee and Martha (Mattie),  but  family is listed as "Posey," show Roy as one year/five months old, & born in 1908 in Texas....
1910 United States Federal Census
 
Name:  Roy Posey
Birth: 1908, Texas
Residence: 1910, Police Jury Ward 2, Caddo, Louisiana
1910 United States Federal Census Record
(below) about
Roy Posey (Josey) - Dated 6 & 7 May 1910
Name: Roy Posey
[Roy Josey] 
Age in 1910: 1 5/12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1908
BirthPlace: Texas
Relation to Head of House: Son
Father's Name: Rodey L
Father's Birth Place: Louisiana
Mother's Name: Mattie M
Mother's Birth Place: Arkansas
Home in 1910: Police Jury Ward 2, Caddo, Louisiana
Marital Status: Single
Race: White
Gender: Male
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Household Members:
Name Age
Rodey L Posey 34
Mattie M Posey 29
Charles W Posey 8
Ralph Posey 3
Roy Posey 1 5/12
William Posey 6
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1910 Census Record - Line 246
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۩ - January 1, 1920  Vivian, Caddo Parish,  LA census records lists Warner, Rufus and Mattie,
(Charles Jesty, 17 years old) (William Jasty, 14 years old)  (Ralph Jesty, 12 years old)  and
(Ray Jesty,
  10 years old) born in 1910 in Texas. 
All four sons were listed as stepsons.......
 
1920 United States Federal Census
 
Name:  Ray Jesty
Birth: 1910, Texas
Residence: 1920, Vivian, Caddo, Louisiana

1920 United States Federal Census Record
about
Ray Jesty

Name: Ray Jesty
Home in 1920: Vivian, Caddo, Louisiana
Age: 10 years 
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1910
BirthPlace: Texas
Relation to Head of House: Stepson
Father's Birth Place: Louisiana
Mother's name: Mattie N
Mother's Birth Place: Arkansas
Marital status: Single
Race: White
Sex: Male
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
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Household Members:
Name Age
Rufus Warner 42
Mattie N Warner 39
Charles Jesty 17
William Jesty 14
Ralph Jesty 12
Ray Jesty 10
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۩ - April 22, 1930 Vivian, Caddo Parish, LA  census lists him in Warner household; he is 19 years old, born in 1911 in Texas....  
 
1930 United States Federal Census
 

 

Name:  Roy Josey
Birth: 1911
Residence: 1930, Vivian, Caddo, Louisiana

 

1930 United States Federal Census Record
about
Roy Josey

Name: Roy Josey
Home in 1930: Vivian, Caddo, Louisiana
Age: 19
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1911
Relation to Head of House: Son
Parent's Name: Mattie
Occupation:

Education:

Military Service:

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Parents' Birthplace:
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Household Members:
Name Age
Mattie Warner 49
Bill Josey 27
Ralph Josey 24
Roy Josey 19

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1930 Census Record - Line 271
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Between the census records and the school records,  which are the ones that I consider to be the most reliable, it appears that the date of March 1, 1908 should be put on a new headstone for him and not 1913 as it is now.  The records are listed below and then the picture of them.  Even though it might be difficult to read, one can see that daddy was not the most studious or academically inclined.

Vivian School Records - Date of Entry in Record 9/18/1916
Roy Josey - Birth date - 7 years old at entry (1916) 
(= birth year 1909 in my calculation)

Vivian School Records - Date of Entry in Record 9/24/1917
Roy Josey - Birthdate 8 - years old at entry (1917)
 = birth year 1909 in my calculation)

BUT:
What about the first census record March 2, 1910 that states that he is one year and five months old.
AND, that he was born in 1908?????????


Roy - 1923
About 14 years old
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School in Vivian that 
Roy Josey attended 
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Roy - 1923
About 14 years old
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Close-up of Roy Josey in 1923 - 5th grade - Vivian School
Roy 4th from right on second row 
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 Entire 5th grade class of 1923
Roy Josey - 4th from right on second row 
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1922 - Fourth Grade - Roy Josey

First from the left on second row

 


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Daddy's parents were Roddie Lee and Martha (Mattie) Narcissus Blunt Josey.  Daddy  was the youngest of four sons.  There was a girl born before any of the sons, and her name was Lula G. Josey,  born August 4, 1899 and she died February 10, 1900, according to Aunt Lessie, but I found Lula in the 1910 census as being nine years old.  Bud Josey has found a Lula Josey married in later years and he is researching that for me.   We do not know what she died of, but she is buried in Mt. Gilead Cemetery, Vivian, LA.  This is yet another mystery in the family.

The story is that Roddie had a drinking problem and Mattie called the sheriff and had him put in jail.  When he was released, he came home to find that Mattie had put his clothes out on the steps and that was the end of that.  From that point on, Mattie raised the four sons by herself.  This must have taken place sometime between 1909 and 1919, because Roddie was married a second time in 1919, in New Boston, TX to Eunice Edtis Pulliam Kitchens Wright.  The same year, Mattie remarried also, to a Rufus Warner, and Warner is the name on daddy's mother's headstone. 

Daddy went to school in Vivian, LA.  Several relatives have told the story of daddy's mother putting his "coattail" under the bedstead leg when he was so young, so daddy would not be into everything while she was doing laundry for townsfolk.  Times were rough in those days, to say the least.  Granny went to Dr. Ray's, the local dentist, and washed his patients' towels.  She even had to take in laundry (washing and ironing)  to support her four sons.  Aunt Lessie tells me that the boy's mother had to go around to the houses to do their laundry, and the boys would all stand around the wash pot to keep warm from the fire.  In those days, the early 1900's, they had to wash clothes by hand on a rub board or a wash board, (there were no washing machines) and then doing the ironing with an iron cast iron that they had to heat on the wood stove to get it hot. 

 
Here is a picture of the main street in Vivian, LA taken in 1966, but it is pretty much the same as it was in the years that we were growing up there and probably not much different when daddy was a little boy there.
At the top of the picture are two water towers .. to the left of the left tower is where Granny had her homes.

According to our family stories, (and, on the 1930 census, listed as a "waiter", in a cafe), daddy worked in Vivian, LA in a "cafe/diner/hamburger joint" known as "Red's Place," as a  fry cook, flipping hamburgers, when he met Cleo Sims.  The story continues with the fact that daddy was smitten with Cleo's red hair at first glance.  That was interesting that he worked in "Red's Place; and fell for a red haired girl.  He always called her "Red."  They were married June 11, 1932 and had seven/possibly eight children, of which one died, of leukemia - Wanda Ruth Josey.   Wanda Ruth was born September 23, 1940, she died July 2, 1943, and she is  buried in Mt. Gilead Cemetery, Vivian, LA.  

It has just been brought to light that on one of our brother's birth certificate, it states that our mother had four children (we thought he was the third one) and one of them had been born dead.  This birth certificate was in 1937, so it was not referring to Wanda Ruth, who did not die until 1943.   If that is correct, there were eight children, but we never knew about that.  I tend to think it was a clerical error, because there was nothing listed on the three subsequent birth certificates about one born dead.  However, there are a lot of stories like that throughout this genealogy research.  We have lost people (they have just evaporated)  that no one has been able to track down.  One of those is a half sister to daddy, Ninnie Lillian Josey.  But, that is on Roddie Josey's  page.  

Daddy was like most men in those depression days, most of them having trouble finding work, and then with World War II, coming right on the heels of the depression, it got even rougher.  He was an exceptionally talented mechanic, went frog gigging a lot,  was a great fisherman, and an excellent swimmer.  I vividly remember one time when our family and some other relatives were out fishing at Monterey Lake and we were having a fish fry on the shore.  This all happened in the early 1940's and those were fun days, out fishing and swimming and enjoying the fish fry.  Then, one of my sisters and I were wading in the water, and she stepped off into an area that was over our heads.   I went after her and neither of us could swim.  Daddy swam out and grabbed my sister and practically threw her to the shore and he came back to get me as I was going down for the third time.  What a scare that was.  But, daddy swam from one side of that lake to the other and back with the greatest of ease.

Bo remembers that, during the 1940's, Daddy worked for Hill Chevrolet in Ringgold, LA.

U.S. World War II Army Enlistment Records, 1938-1946
U.S. World War II Army Enlistment Records, 1938-1946

Name: Roy Josey
Birth Year: 1913
Race: White, citizen (White)
Nativity State or Country: Texas
State: Louisiana
County or City: Caddo
   
Enlistment Date: 18 Feb 1946
Enlistment State: Louisiana
Enlistment City: Shreveport
Branch: Air Corps
Branch Code: Air Corps
Grade: Private First Class
Grade Code: Private First Class
Term of Enlistment: Enlistment for Hawaiian Department
Component: Regular Army (including Officers, Nurses, Warrant Officers, and Enlisted Men)
   
Education: 2 years of high school
Civil Occupation: Shop Maintenance Mechanic
Marital Status: Married
Height: 09  - Obviously should be 5'9"
Weight: 325 - Obviously should be 125
Source Information:
 
National Archives and Records Administration. U.S. World War II Army Enlistment Records, 1938-1946 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc., 2005. Original data: Electronic Army Serial Number Merged File, 1938-1946 [Archival Database]; World War II Army Enlistment Records; Records of the National Archives and Records Administration, Record Group 64; National Archives at College Park, College Park, MD.

Description:
This database contains information on about 8.3 million men and women who enlisted in the U.S. Army during World War II. Information contained in this database usually includes: name of enlistee, army serial number, residence (county and state), place of enlistment, enlistment date, grade, army branch, component, term of enlistment, birthplace, year of birth, race and citizenship, height and weight, education, and marital status.

 


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Daddy went into the Army Air Corps in WWII, serving as a  mechanic and flight engineer, and may very well have flown in, and worked on, this type of aircraft during WWII that is in the background of this page.   The background music on this page is "Coming in on a Wing and a Prayer," which was very popular during World War II. 

The Honorable Discharge papers stated that he was in the 563rd AAF Bomber Unit, and his description was  5'5", weight 125 lbs., brown eyes and black hair.  His first enlistment began September  2, 1942 and ended November 21, 1945.  He started out as a Spec. Vehicle Operator, attended 4 Engine Flight Eng. Schools in Tenn,  and was awarded the American Theater Ribbon, and Victory Medal.  He reenlisted February 15, 1946 and stayed in until February 5, 1947.  During that enlistment, he was in the 2621st  AAF Bomber Unit.

According to the records, daddy was awarded the American Theater Ribbon and Victory Medal, both of which are shown below.  I have written off for replacement medals, since we do not know of any being awarded prior to this.


The patch for the
 563rd AAF Bomber Unit
Patch courtesy of Brian French
Squadron Patches of WWII

Victory Medal

American Theater Ribbon


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AAF Discharge Papers
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October 4, 1954, daddy died at the young age of 45, roughly,  leaving a widow and four children at home.   We are working on a new headstone, since the one there now is in disrepair.  He is buried by his mother (Martha Narcissus (Mattie) Blunt Josey/Warner) and his daughter, Wanda Ruth Josey, in Mt. Gilead Cemetery Vivian, LA .


Obituary for Roy Josey
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October 7, 1954 - Jackie at her Dad's grave















All saved under "Roy-Mem1a-14a"

 

 


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Taken five years later
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Cleo Sims Josey's Page